ooc: Vampires?

[Lady DeVille]

Do we have Jedi Vampires now too? How would you reconcile that with protecting the universe? I'm refering to Deus and Pandora, I've only seen them here, so I'm curious...

[Aisha Klan Klan]

*laughs at LD's title*

[Warren Azalin]

Yeah we got Jedi Vampires now too (not that it makes any sense).

[Sage Hazzard]

Well, I think i can explain it.

A vampire is someone who is bitten by another vampire. He/She is sometimes turned against his/her will. If this Vampire can fight the urge to suck blood, he/she can be good. He/She can still be a Jedi. A Vampire isn't bad by definiton, he is bad because he kills by sucking the blood from his/her victims. If he/she can obtain the blood by other means then killing, such as a doner or blood bank, then the said Vampire can still live and be good, there for he/she can be a Jedi.

[Warren Azalin]

I know Vampires can be good and are not inherently evil but they are usually seen as creatures of Darkness (That whole light being bad for them thing might not work). I don't have problems with Vampires as Jedi (might not be logical but no problem), only thing I see wrong is that they might have to RP some special things into there characters. (I highly doubt seeing a Vampire use Force Light).

[Sage Hazzard]

Well with vampires certain lebertys can be taken. In some literature and movies Vampires can go into the light. Vampires are characters of literature and can be changed to fit your wants.

[Seigfried Deus]

And there we go. Sage sorted it out

[Danster the Gangster]

My God, whatever next?

[Vega Van Derveld]

: Jedi Monkey?!

[Danster the Gangster]

Ooga Booga

[Vega Van Derveld]

Booga?! Not again! :X

[Force Master Hunter]

How about we spell out this Vampire BS in clear and simple terms. Vampires are undead. That is NOT Jedi. Yes, you have Jedi running around here who is clearly dead, but that is in terms of the SW universe.

Blood sucking creatures, yes that is acceptible. Maybe even called Vampires, why not. Living creatures, not supernatural. But lets make this clear. Undead are not Star Wars, Vampires as in the supernatuarl creatures dont belong as Jedi. In a different character, I have told Jedi who wished to obtain undead powers to not do so or leave. You are either a Jedi, or you are not. For a gun wielding maniac like me, if that distincition is clear, why is it not for you?

Yes I know the Sith have a vampire presence. I dont give hoot what they do. You must realise that to be a Jedi.... it's all or nothing.

[ReaperFett]

ok, lets point something out. Vampires are people, but with problems. Sunlight, have to feed, etc. These are things many Star Wars races have. All that is done here is hes given it a name. And Im all for it. The fact that Saurron, a Vampire, RPs far better than half the people in this thread is testament that rather than crying about what someoone calls himself for a few traits, they got out and tried to improve

[Vega Van Derveld]

Well said Fett.
Always knew the British were the smart ones.

[Darth Turbogeek]

The question is, ware vampires as intended by the RP'ers in question, Jedi? NO. If they want to be a race that feeds on blood and has problems with light, that's called rabies. Heh. No, if it is a mortal RACE, then, there is no problem. If you want to go feed on blood, yeah, whatever floats yer boat.

What I reject - and I feel is being done - is brining the traits of UNDEAD into this and this is what I interpet is being done. Undead are Dark Side. I dont care how well you can RP - and I dare any Jedi to outdo what I can do - you can not reconcile an undead creature, which is by definition of the Dark Side and be a Jedi. It just does not happen and it does not work.

We do not water down what a Jedi is, we stand to our standards and that should be the bottom line. As I repeat, if you want to play a blood feeding race with sunlight problem, allergic to garlic and water problem, dont care. Want to be immortal or undead, forget it being Jedi. Because it aint what SW roleplaying and SW are about.

The only possible non physical and after death role is what this character finds itself in and that is 100% Star Wars. And even then, the powers seem to be limited to guidance and illusions.

[Nichos Marr]

How about Angel (David Boreanz)? He's a good Vampire. Sure he feels the need to feed on blood, but he doesn't go and attack innocent people.

On Buffy, there is a rule that Vampires turn evil after truly falling in love with someone. That's what made Angel turn evil.

Another example of a good Vampire is Blade (Marvel Comics). He's a half vampire, but he seeks to destroy them all. Vampires are the undead, but that doesn't make them evil IMO.

[Pandora Vindel]

allergic to garlic

Well, go watch interview with the vampire.. anyway..

Good is a POV if you know that killing is evil and resist the urge as much as you can to kill because you know it's wrong..are you still evil? Even man kills to survive

I think Sage and Nichos have a point.

[Seigfried Deus]

Just a point to do with what Nichos said. The falling in love thing, that's a single isolated case for Angel, as he is cursed.

Depending on where you go to find out information the low-down on Vampires can vary. The myths about the ways in which they live, the ways they can be killed and what they are not allowed to do change from source to source and as you can never find a true account of what a real vampire can/can't do, technically any or none of them could be right...

[Leeloo Mina]

Muwhahahahaha!! Thats right they are all wrong! And you wonder why I never go outside and offline :evil:

[Hart Kenobi]

Vampires are by definition (according to Buffy) half-human/half-demon. Since not all demons are necessarily bad, a vampire, if it is given the means to, can easily be on the side of good. They probably won't be good, nice people, but we're discussing sides.