Auburn, please don't lose (until the Iron Bowl, that is)
Uuuuuuugh they'll probably beat us badly who am I kidding?!
Auburn, please don't lose (until the Iron Bowl, that is)
Uuuuuuugh they'll probably beat us badly who am I kidding?!
Well I think when these super conferences happen we will probably get one because there will be less conferences easier to divide it up. I still hate the BCS it is crap and everybody but a few people know it.Originally Posted by CMJ
If you ask 4 people, you'd probably get five different ways to set up a playoff. Hence, don't expect one anytime soon.
I suspect we're quite a ways from Super conferences. Especially if Texas continues to run the Big XII
Criticisms of the BCS are fine, because there are a number of issues with it. I'm no staunch defender of it myself. However, it continues to amaze me how quickly college football fans have forgotten what the national championship race was like under the old Bowl Alliance system.
Every time someone I know bitches about how the BCS is crap and should be immediately blown up, I always ask "With what are you going to replace it?" CMJ is correct that super conferences are not going to happen for a while yet. Until then, what would you rather have? A system where direct conference tie-ins to bowls trump everything and there's no guarantee of the top teams matching up, or a system that at least makes an effort to determine #1 and #2 and put them on the field together to decide a champion?
Yes, the BCS needs work, and yes, I too would ultimately like to see a playoff of some kind. Getting to that point isn't going to happen overnight.
Additionally, people bitch about the computer rankings because they are an easy target. No, they aren't perfect. But at least they make an attempt to rank the teams according a (hopefully) logical set of criteria. The far bigger problem, IMO, is the coaches poll. Coaches are, in reality, all but completely clueless about teams outside of their own and whomever is next on the schedule. They don't have time to evaluate the performances of the rest of D1 outside of looking at a box-score (if that). Asking them to rank a top 25 every week in any objective manner is preposterous (so much so, that some have non-coaching assistants fill our their ballots for them). There's no effective policing of this either, so there's little consistency. If you want to make the ranking more fair, ditch the coaches poll as part of the BCS formula. It's far more biased and questionable than any of the computer rankings IMO.
It was a huge weekend of action. Some great games, some upsets, and some statements made.
Ranked schools to lose(AP poll used).
(5) Michigan State
(7) Missouri
(16) Florida State
(22) Miami (FL)
(24) USC
Oregon and Auburn both with big wins when many were calling for upsets. Baylor beats Texas for the first time since 1997. Joe Paterno gets to within one of an insane 400 all-time wins.
And most importantly, NT won their second game of the season!
A ton of ranked schools went down, some in upsets, some inmessive tilts against other ranked teams. TCU and LSU probably made the biggest statements. Top 25 (AP) to lose this week.
(5) Alabama
(6) Utah
(11) Oklahoma
(13) Arizona
(14) Missouri
(18) South Carolina
(22) Baylor
(23) N.C. State
(24) Florida State
Alabama is done for National Title consideration. I guess they lost too many important pieces from last year because they are just not the same team. Oregon and Auburn should stay 1 and 2 TCU and Boise need one of those teams to lose.
TCU is in great position right now. There's a good chance that either Auburn or Oregon will trip up yet, and unlike Boise, I don't think a one-loss team would jump an undefeated TCU team in the standings.
The big question is about Cam Newton. Is he going to get suspended? If he does I think Auburn will lose to Alabama or in the SEC title game. The Newton scandal is a huge mess. Of course I think the cheating thing is a bigger deal to me. If that is true the should throw him out. I think people who cheat should be thrown the book at and never allowed back in to school (I am talking about college here).
The bigger issue vis a vis Newton is whether he's going to be declared ineligible or not. Suspension is not going to happen, but if he's ineligible, then it essentially nullifies Auburn's entire season up to that point, since they've been playing an ineligible player all season.
Well the school could suspended him if more allegations come out. It could be another Reggie Bush situation where he could be stripped of the Heisman and Auburn stripped of the National Title in a future season.
There is absolutely nothing in Auburn's benefit if they pre-emptively bench Newton. You aren't going to win brownie points from the NCAA if you do it. It just doesn't work that way. Your hypothetical assumes that Auburn is not complicit in any pay-for-play scheme (which I believe they aren't involved, but that of course is up in the air too). Even if they're not, and it comes up later that there's some nugget of info that proves Cam is ineligible, that's pretty much it, whether Auburn acts on it or no. He would be ineligible retroactively, and that would pretty much nullify all games this season and while the program may avoid sanctions, it would negate the wins they've had.
I was thinking they might do it because it is the right thing to do, but there would have to be more allegations for that to happen. I guess we will have to see what happens if is declared ineligible then the season is over for Auburn. Of course that could happen after the season. I think he might have screwed himself out of the Heisman though as many voters won't vote for him with this cloud over him. And pretty much this is it for this kid. He will not make it in the pros. Running QBs don't do well in pro offenses.
With the talent he has displayed, there will be NFL teams that will want to draft him and try to convert him into a TE/WR.
Bottom line, the kid is innocent until it's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that he did something wrong. I hope those who vote for the Heisman Trophy keep that in mind.
Great day for action, with some conference races becoming more clear (and others not so much). Next week will REALLY be interesting. Nonetheless some really good games today(Michigan State pulling another one out of the fire, A&M winning a defensive war, Les Miles using another one of his 1000 lives are the ones that jump out at me).
Ranked AP schools to lose this week.
(9) Nebraska
(20) USC
(21) Iowa
(22) Mississippi St.
(24) Miami (FL)
Down goes Boise St.
Auburn eeks out the Iron Bowl in a big comeback.
Oregon rolls after some early issues.
Big Ten will be decided today, other half of the Big 12 title game as well.
Pretty epic weekend. First off the ranked schools to lose....
(3) Boise State
(6) LSU
(9) Alabama
(10) Oklahoma State
(20) Arizona
(21) N.C. State
(24) Iowa
The Auburn comeback yesterday was pretty amazing. I felt nice for Florida State and Notre Dame ending long streaks against ancient rivals. Virginia Tech amazes after that 0-2 start with ten straight victories. Oklahoma and OSU combined for about 5 plays over 70 yards as the Sooners force a 3 way tie for the Division (and will likely be the one to move on - tho right now I believe A&M is the best of the lot at the moment).
There's a lot more out there. Pretty crazy few days though.
CIVIL WAR DAY BIOTCHES
OSU Beavers are going down, and going down hard.
Go Ducks!
After today, would think the BCS should shape up as follows:
Rose Bowl: TCU vs. Wisconsin
Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Stanford
Orange Bowl: Connecticut vs. Virginia Tech
Sugar Bowl: Ohio State vs. Arkansas
National Title Game: Auburn vs. Oregon
I actually think the Rose Bowl could be the best game of the bunch.
Thoughts on the Bowl season so far?
For the most part, not that many competitive games. Big 10 is sure struggling, and go Sun Belt, we can win the Bowl Challenge Cup!
I was at the Rose Bowl this year and that was amazing - not just the game but the whole festival atmosphere.
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