Black Sun shake up and down?

[Captain Untouchable]

What "assets" does Black Nebula actually have? Is there actually enough legit business around for a business-style hostile takeover to actually work?

If there was one of those, what would actually happen to OW? Would he accept a job with Black Sun, or would he be a hold-out?

If OW isn't going to side with Black Sun either way, then Kallum's approach isn't necessarily a bad option. It certainly creates for more drama, and... well... at the end of the day, we can always have OW captured. Maybe Sass can keep him as a pet, or something?

I like the sound of any kind of takeover that has the word "hostile" in it, frankly. Gives me an opportunity to have Chir'daki threaten people with guns. He likes that.

[Chir'daki]

Yes. Yes I do.

[O.W. Outcast]

What "assets" does Black Nebula actually have? Is there actually enough legit business around for a business-style hostile takeover to actually work?

If there was one of those, what would actually happen to OW? Would he accept a job with Black Sun, or would he be a hold-out?

If OW isn't going to side with Black Sun either way, then Kallum's approach isn't necessarily a bad option. It certainly creates for more drama, and... well... at the end of the day, we can always have OW captured. Maybe Sass can keep him as a pet, or something?

I like the sound of any kind of takeover that has the word "hostile" in it, frankly. Gives me an opportunity to have Chir'daki threaten people with guns. He likes that.

I already state what he would if it's more diplomatic. He get's paid and disappears into the unknown taking what ever heat comes from the loyalists in that case. If it's done Kallum's way he will fight maybe even find another crime syndicate to merge with like maybe this Zeltros to survive.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Sweetjies, jif jI know wherrre you'll be, stagjing a takeoverrr jis sjimplerrr than jif jI have to fjind you.

jIt can stjill be a ljittle djiplomatjic, despjite Kallum's 'betrrrayal'

edit: so very much the wrong account.

[Sasseeri Reeouurra]

Oh well. I think everyone else gets the picture.

Just because Kallum is going over early, as it were, and betraying Nebula to Sasseeri, it doesn't mean we're going to go in blasters blazing and mowing everyone down in a hail of energy bolts in order to take over the organization. Knowing the location of a high powered meeting is just the thing Sasseeri would need for a more business-like takeover as well. I see it happening as a little hostile, a little diplomatic.

Like, "Hey everyone, guess what? I'm back. And if you want to you can come join the winning side at Black Sun. We'll make it worth your while to dissolve and bring Nebula's assets over.

"And if you don't want to..."

[Irridia Solensis]

*nods* I like this plan.

Won't prevent me from having...words...with Kallum, though. *smiles sweetly*

[Kallum Romanoch]

I can take it. The question is: can you bitches bring it?

Also, it's not like Kallum's going to make a public declaration of his treachery. He will make his shady deal behind the scenes with Sasseeri, and very few will know about it(she could even later dangle this over his head for blackmail material), but that's not to say people aren't welcome to discover the truth.

[Blade Bacquin]

*is OW just three feet taller and humanish*

How would one lacky kid find out about a high powered meeting. Not like OW is going to tell him about it. I mean OW Bailed him out of jail once and the kid spilled his guts about everything before they even left the cop shop. Just Saying OW would not trust him with said information of a high powered meeting unless Kalail told him but she wouldn't be that dumb.

[Droo]

He found out somehow? Who cares? It's for the sake of moving things forward, I'm not going to look for trivial things to obstruct the roleplaying. The alternative is this:

Oh hay, Mac's right, there's no way Kallum would know anything about anything so let's just drop the whole idea and do nothing. Actually, let's just plough on with a nice diplomatic resolution, it will be great, characters can sit in a room and talk it out between them for a thread or two. What's that? Drama? No, no, I don't want any of that, this is roleplaying!

[Reinhart Thul]

I'll volunteer Arriana to spill the beans. Gives me something to do!

[Blade Bacquin]

He found out somehow? Who cares? It's for the sake of moving things forward, I'm not going to look for trivial things to obstruct the roleplaying. The alternative is this:

Oh hay, Mac's right, there's no way Kallum would know anything about anything so let's just drop the whole idea and do nothing. Actually, let's just plough on with a nice diplomatic resolution, it will be great, characters can sit in a room and talk it out between them for a thread or two. What's that? Drama? No, no, I don't want any of that, this is roleplaying!

Well you see the problem I was having with it was how you where undermining my characters intelligence with this hole Idea. But hell fuck do what you want not like I have any fucking say anyway. Oh wait I do and I would rather not have this Idea make my character out be a retard.

It's not like I have anything against you turning on BN I could care less.

[Droo]

I wasn't undermining anything. I just wanted to do something with my character and wanted to help move things along, whereas you seem to be looking for hypothetical obstructions to progress and being generally quite emo about it. I've not the time nor the inclination to humour that sort of mentality so if you want to throw your toys out the pram, be my guest.

[Blade Bacquin]

Yeah sorry I was affecting your character by letting you make mine out to be a tard. How dare I be so self centered and not letting you just go with an Idea that does estential this.

OW tells a kid he doesn't trust IC we are having this big old power meeting with me and so and so. Then have the kid whom he doesn't trust turn on BN and go blab this secret meeting to Sass. After that sass comes barging into this meeting that OW conveniently forgot to post guards and also told a now traitor kid about. Now we are being forced to make a choice by miss sass at this point because none of us brought weapons to fight back with.

This is the Idea as a whole that has been presented before me by you and some parts by sass. Mind you this Idea makes OW= the stupidest fuck in the galaxy. Yet you assume I shouldn't ask questions and just roll with it because your bored. I'm asking to fill in a few blanks so my character doesn't look like a complete frigin idiot. I'm sorry I don't want my character to be made out to be a fucktard I guess it makes me a self centered emo bitch.

[Droo]

OW tells a kid he doesn't trust IC we are having this big old power meeting with me and so and so. Then have the kid whom he doesn't trust turn on BN and go blab this secret meeting to Sass. After that sass comes barging into this meeting that OW conveniently forgot to post guards and also told a now traitor kid about. Now we are being forced to make a choice by miss sass at this point because none of us brought weapons to fight back with.

Who said OW told him? Who said he didn't find out by himself? Intercepting a transmission? Hacking a computer? Anything. Who said there were no guards at the meeting or claimed those present would be unnarmed? There are ways of doing this without even remotely tarnishing OW's reputation.

Also, you're conveniently forgetting I said the following right at the start of my post earlier:

I have a proposal to help facilitate this thing. Kallum could betray the Black Nebula by revealing the location of a meeting of high profile Nebula peronnel to Sasseeri. If you want an alternative, he could betray them a whole host of other ways but basically this could be the catalyst to the reunification process.

Highlighted for your convenience. I'm sorry but you're taking this all far too personally, being far too defensive, and you are typing before thinking.

[Blade Bacquin]

Might be because of your rude response to my question in the first place? that I went defensive had you showed what I missed earlier maybe I wouldn't have got that way. Could of would of should of though I guess.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Stop, now.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Do you have a better idea, Blade?

Like Droo said, there is a way to RP it out that doesn't insult your character's intelligence. I wouldn't RP that Sasseeri's crew showed up and just took all you out like busters, that's just ridiculous. To assume I/we'd plan it like that is incorrect.

[O.W. Outcast]

Do you have a better idea, Blade?

Like Droo said, there is a way to RP it out that doesn't insult your character's intelligence. I wouldn't RP that Sasseeri's crew showed up and just took all you out like busters, that's just ridiculous. To assume I/we'd plan it like that is incorrect.

I have all kinds of Idea if there better or even good for that matter is a matter of opinion.

All I want was some answers all I got was attitude and I'm sorry I went on the defensive because of it. I'm sorry I saw that as the plan that's why I was asking questions to make sure it wasn't trying to undermine my characters intelligence. To see if I was interpreting wrong and like I said I got tude and went defensive.

As for my final opinion on the Idea I waiting for Kalail's input. As for any idea's I have for how it should go down well nothing solid in mind yet a few idea's in fluid state.

Allot the reason I have nothing solid is because OW has no vested interest in BS in the end. He makes the deal to merge what ever it is and goes his separate way.

( I want everyone to realize that OW going his separate way is an OOC choice so IC it cause some problems with how I think it should go down. If that makes sense.)

[Kalail Rotas]

Uh...

Now that I am caught up, I am not sure why the two idea's couldn't just happen. Kallum can still betray Black Nebula in some way, Sass/Tear and then Miranda off the side get involved, shit his the fan, merger?

The details need to be worked out but I don't see why everyone can't have a part to play.

[O.W. Outcast]

Plan A v. 2.0

Miranda/Dalethria Cuts her support to BN because she is angry at her lover and is tears lackey.

As the Imps start to shut down are illegal trade routes OW and others go into a bit of a panic about what to do. As so choose to defect early because of the feelings of lose of family or what ever. One of these defectors being Kallum.

Before Kallum leaves Corvus in a pissed off rage let's it slip that there is a secret meeting going on. He doesn't let out any other details other then it's location being on Tatooine in Jabba's Palace.

(Side not Corvus can be switched for anyone if they wish to play the one that let it slip if not we can use corvus as an NPC.)

Kallum becomes a traitor as he defects to BS and soon a rat as he let's Sass in on the meeting. The meeting is meant to be huge well guarded.

Details of the meeting are as follows. O.W. seeing the imperial support drop has called a meeting to devide up BN legit business into four parts. The four parts will be devided up against the four new leaders of BN as follows.

Kalail - Would get the Kasajian banking consortium (since it belongs to her family it is rightful that she be in charge of it and over see it)
Bambi - Would get full control of BN's small weapons manufactures on Rodia.
Arriana - would gain control over all BN Casino's thru out the galaxy
O.W. - Would sell off the droid factories on Gnenosis and Purchase ship yards on Duros with his portion of the business.

The power meeting will be to put this order in place so that if one part of the organization or person is compromised it isn't all taken down.

Now as Sass fights her way into this meeting and bustes in proclaiming victory and telling us to surrender or else. O.W. and hopefully a few other will have spar with words maybe even fists. In the end O.W. will surrender all illegal assets to Sass. However the four legit asset holders will be able to make there own choices as to weather they want to keep there holdings or side with Sass.

O.W. of course will take his ship yards and leave you all to the crime game (Creating his new company Outworld enterprises.) until he re emerges at some point with another organization.

Thats how i think it should go down but that's just me.